Where’s Fred Willard when you need him? It’s Thanksgiving, after all.
I’m sorry - but I absolutely loved it.
I don’t really see why it retcons either Chris’ or David’s character arcs. They still carry around the guilt of surviving a Time War they *believe* they ended through mutually assured destruction. In fact, I find the fact they carry that burden lends them so much more tragic irony. I feel desperately sorry for them - they cannot know that they always did the right thing after all.
The difficulty for me - and this may be because I’m such an old fogey classic series fan! - is I never quite understood how the Doctor, the character I loved from childhood, and who *always* found a better way to triumph - could have put himself into the position where he murdered his own people. I wrote the scene in Dalek, and I made myself believe it through Chris’ rage and guilt. But I believed it mostly because we never *saw* it. In my mind’s eye I could never quite accept the moment when the Doctor becomes a warrior cold enough to destroy. And as the series went on over the last decade, as we moved away from the ‘story background’ that we created for that first revival season, as I found the Doctor ever more recognisable, I found it an even harder fit.
I think the Time War was an act of brilliance on Russell’s part, and I think it actively spurred on the show. But the series has outgrown the need for it, and if anything, it now rather holds the series back. (Need some angst in an episode? Open the Magic Box called Time War Guilt, and indulge!) Does that mean I need to see the Time Lords again, or go on little jaunts to Gallifrey? No, it doesn’t. But I’m happy that the central MacGuffin of the Time War has at last been dealt with, and in a way that (for me at least) gives extra sad nuance to the journeys of the ninth and tenth Doctors.
And it was about time some writer dared to ask a character to count the children. Because if you’re going to feed off Planetary Destruction for seven whole seasons, for the sake of decent humanity, *someone* needs to ask it.
I loved the special. I found it funny, and clever, and extraordinarily moving. And it seemed to me like a proper celebration of the Doctor, and of his character, and of the way he’ll sacrifice hundreds of years of his own happiness to do the right thing.
Utterly understand why others might not agree. Sorry. Just my opinion. :)
This makes me a little vomity and rageful. Just my opinion. “Angst in a box”????
Well, I’m glad it was only a little vomity. Because, really, it’s just my take on a TV show. One that we both love, clearly, so there’s no need for the rage. :)
It’s not personal. Sorry that I’m emotional (I did write that in the middle of Thanksgiving baking catastrophes). I’ve just been so disappointed and I’m trying to understand the other point of view (honestly, because I really, really loved most of the special) and I just…don’t.
The reverting to the Doctor that was (sans handy angst), was already happening by natural progression (as is, in fact, indicated earlier in the episode). I found it wholly unnecessary to remove that cataclysmic event, that was so intrinsic to how we have known the Doctor since the initial reboot.
Because the past Doctors (between the War Doctor and the current one) have now suffered tremendous pain for no reason. It’s a handy tool to say they don’t remember, so their past isn’t rewritten… But it isn’t… right, in my opinion. I mean, the change in history, not the handwavy memory loss.
Thank you. I’m glad it wasn’t personal!
I completely understand your point of view, I really do. I think it was a risky piece of storytelling, and when I saw it I immediately thought it would divide fandom. I’m just lucky, because it sat comfortably with me. (Maybe because I’m so old and grizzled that I’m well used to the show drawing a line under the past every now and then - I know there were horrors when UNIT was dropped from the show suddenly in 1975, and then the Doctor never even mentioned them again. For an example! And maybe because I was one of the writers who first tackled the Time War - and I knew even then that it was nothing clearly thought through, that it was all a vague but potent backstory. …When I wrote Dalek, I had *no* idea that the show would survive one season, let alone that the Time War would carry on resonating for nearly a decade.)
But the power we have as fans is that we can ignore or discredit the parts of the show that don’t fit. And we can just bother caring about the bits that do.
I really hope it doesn’t spoil your fun for Capaldi. And I really hope, too, that you have a lovely Thanksgiving. (I’m stuck in Britain. We don’t have Thanksgiving. So I’m jealous.) :)
You’re very right re: UNIT example. We all have had a right laugh over inconsistencies that have caused strife in the past. I hope I get there with this as well. I DO love me some Capaldi. :)
Cheers! Best to you as well.
P. S. Don’t be jealous, y’all do a much better Christmas. ;)
And now, let us all have a laugh that somewhere, Uncle Rusty must be getting a great giggle out of this. His minions will live 4EVA!!! Much love to a partner in crime here, hideandsqueek. We may not agree in all things Whovian, but I’ll be chuckling all day since this ended in harmony and fan love.
Even though we only saw a glimpse of Peter Capaldi, you could just tell what he was thinking. Just look:
Fucking Dalek twats I’m going to twat you over the head with my fucking Tardis you fucking fucks
Announcing the Marc With a C “Holiday Vinyl Bundle”!
Five albums on vinyl! This *limited-time* package saves you $25, and you get over 60 songs spread out over six discs! Some of the albums are on colored vinyl… and all proceeds go towards releasing my new live album. OMG. (That last part is the important part).
Albums included are Popular Music, MF’s Be BS’n, RetroLowFi, Normal Bias and Pop! Pop! Pop!, and it will *seriously never be cheaper to get them all*. Makes a great stocking stuffer for that loved one that has a 12” stocking. C’mon, we’ve all got that relative, right?
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What he said!
What Alex Jones sounds like to me.
Dr. Strangelove - Precious Bodily Fluids (by poolitics)
how cool is this wedding cake though
Let me tell you a thing, about an amazing man named Patrick Stewart
I went to Comicpalooza this weekend and I was full of nervous energy as I was standing in line to ask Sir Patrick Stewart a question at his panel. I first had to thank him for a speech he had given at amnesty international about domestic violence towards women . I had only seen it a few months ago but I was still dealing with my own personal experience with a similar issue, and I didn’t know what to call it. After seeing Patrick talk so personally about it I finally was able to correctly call it abuse, in my case sexual abuse that was going to quickly turn into physical abuse as well. I didn’t feel guilty or disgusting anymore. I finally didn’t feel responsible for the abuse that was put upon me. I was finally able to start my healing process and to put that part of my life behind me.
After thanking him I asked him “Besides acting, what are you most proud of that you have done in you life (that you are willing to share with us)?”. Sir Patrick told us about how he couldn’t protect his mother from abuse in his household growing up and so in her name works with an organization called Refuge for safe houses for women and children to escape from abusive house holds. Sir Patrick Stewart learned only last year that his father had actually been suffering from PTSD after he returned from the military and was never properly treated. In his father’s name he works with an organization called Combat Stress to help those soldiers who are suffering from PTSD.
They were about to move onto the next question when Sir Patrick looked at me and asked me “My Dear, are you okay?” I said yes, and that I was finally able to move on from that part of my life. He then passionately said that it is never the woman’s fault in domestic violence, and how wrong to think that it ever is. That it is in the power of men to stop violence towards women. The moderator then asked “Do you want a hug?”
Sir Patrick didn’t even hesitate, he smiled, hopped off the stage and came over to embrace me in a hug. Which he held me there for a long while. He told me “You never have to go through that again, you’re safe now.” I couldn’t stop thanking him. His embrace was so warm and genuine. It was two people, two strangers, supporting and giving love. And when we pulled away he looked strait in my eyes, like he was promising that. He told me to take care. And I will.
Sir Patrick Stewart is an absolute roll model for men. He is an amazing man and was so kind and full of heart. I want to let everyone know to please find help if you are in a violent or abusive house hold or relationship. There are organizations and people ready to help. I had countless people after the panel thanking me for sharing the story and asking him those questions. Many said they went through similar things. You are not alone.
^ Here is the video of my question to Sir Patrick Stewart
Photos by Eugene Lee, Thank you
My emotions! MY EMOTIONS!
Sir Patrick is such a class act.